Dhillon on Trump Jr. Testimony

Harmeet Dhillon Appears on FBN’s ‘Lou Dobbs Tonight’ To Discuss Trump Jr. Re-testifying before Senate

According to Dhillon:

Well, I can’t think of a proper legislative purpose or an oversight role for the Senate or the house to be asking further questions. This inquiry is over. The Democrats need to accept and come to terms with the fact that they lost and that there was nothing there. And, the only thing that could be gained by hauling somebody in to re-testify about something that he’s already testified about before is to trap that person with some tricky question in a perjury trap. But, that’s not a legitimate function. I’m really disappointed to see the majority leader, Mitch McConnell going along with Senate Burr’s abuse of this process.

Right. Well, you know, what can I say, I think we’ve seen the outer limits of what we can expect from these folks. It’s disappointing. I hope that we get past this particular episode and move on. But, you know, as we know, Lou, Democrats aren’t willing to accept this. The whole point of this whole Russia hoax and inquiry was to gum up the wheels of power in Washington and make sure the president can’t get his substantive agenda accomplished, and it’s sad to see Republicans being complicit in that goal.

Well, yes. So, I’m encouraged to see the investigation started by Mr. Durham. But on the other hand, I want to put a caution out there which is that it appears from a recent news article — and, of course, we don’t know how accurate this is, but it looks like the initial reports coming out about this is that it’s not actually going to be a full-fledged criminal investigation as yet. It’s simply going to be a review of the existing evidence that’s already been collected. I question if that’s the role of this new investigation by U.S. Attorney Durham, whether that’s really just redundant of what the Inspector General Horowitz is doing and some of the other work that’s been done. Because without the prosecutorial power, power to subpoena, power to ask questions, you know, we’re really just rehashing old news, and nothing more is going to happen. So, I hope it’s not the case that this is just a panacea to the right to make sure that “something is being done”. Because without some prosecutions, nothing really will end up being done here.

I do not know him personally. Professionally he has an outstanding reputation. And so, this is no criticism of him as an individual. It is a question of what powers is he being granted and what is his brief, what is he being asked to do. Now, of course, it could be the case that, step one is you review the existing evidence and then determine whether you then want to bring somebody in front of a grand jury for an indictment. So, hopefully, that is the case that this is going in phases. But if this is just sort of another Inspector General, backward-looking effort, then it is meaningless. Because unless people are held accountable, and I mean thrown in prison for violating our laws and abusing the civil rights of American citizens, then we are going to see this repeated again and again, and again. And it is a disgraceful chapter in our law enforcement history.

Right. So, this is, you know, to use the overused phrase Kabuki theater, this is theater. They do not expect Don McGahn to actually come and obey that subpoena because McGahn is attorney-bound not just by political scruples, but by his legal ethics, and he cannot testify against his client’s consent without incurring a potential, you know, bar trouble. So, the next step after this when he does not testify is then we’re going to be at a bit of an impasse. I’ve heard Adam Schiff say publicly that he’s weighing things like, you know, issuing fines to witnesses from the Trump Administration who will not show up $25,000 a day. That’s about as likely as throwing people into the broom closet or the Capitol jail that they keep talking about. It’s fantasy island that’s not happening. They don’t have authority to do that. I think it’s an impasse. I don’t think they’re going to be able to do anything with it other than try to do fundraising and advertisements off of it.

Well, look, I just want to go back to the issue of the investigation that John Durham is doing. And I would say let’s roof withhold judgment. I don’t want to jump to any conclusions yet. I hold out hope that he’ll eventually find his mark.

It’s fact-based, Lou. Experience-based and fact-based.

Thanks, Lou.